In both English and Portuguese fan translations it says the current arc is "Ippo in Mexico". Do you have a way to check that in a raw WSM for the chapter? The reason is is that Morikawa never put arc names in the manga before (unless he did in the WSM issues in the past that I don't know about), nor have said the "Ippo in Mexico Arc"" even began. Is it something the translators put in or did Morikawa actually put it there?
Kanji for the arc name would have "編" at the end of it if you are able to check.
I have only been able to read what ever gets posted on various spoilers sites...where they don't really include some of those side comments. I haven't seen the raw version of the cover page either where the "Ippo in Mexico" appears....
Here what one spoiler site had: Round 1294 最高の最終調整
Honestly some of the arcs could probably be broken up to "mini-arcs" like Sendo's trip to Mexico, or Kimura's last match, and Ippo in Mexico instead of making arcs like 30+ chapters long, since there is a natural break in the story where it focuses on other characters.
I'm thinking the same thing. The Dream Match in Mexico arc we have has to be change regardless now that the "Sendō in Mexico Arc" was said by Morikawa. "Ippo in Mexico Arc" (starting at Round 1292) is most likely to be true, meaning we just got to get a name for the Kimura focused arc (Rounds 1276-1291).
"Sendo in Mexico Arc" was literally from Morikawa's twitter. "Ippo in Mexico Arc" was from the cover of the WSM version of chapter 1294. I didn't make it up, it is the official one. The one with the unofficial name is Importance of the Support Role Arc because there had to be an arc between the two "Mexico" arcs.
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Round 509 - Page 10 - "He had quite a few non-title fights over the years..."
Where Martinez fought non-title match as a WBA Champion. He fought 21 title match since he became champion, but it was never mentioned how many non-title matches. It could be like Martinez was like 30-0 when he became champion where he fought 21 title matches, and like 30 non-title matches since Martinez only fights the #1 challenger as title defences like he mentioned to Alfredo.
You got to keep in mind that Martinez would have been champion well before he was 45-0 too, since Date was able to fight a World title match just after 13 matches since his debut (based on his match history that Morikawa posted.) So it could very well be something similar to where Martinez became champion after the same amount of matches too.
With the exception of Kamogawa Boxing Gym members (like Itagaki, Ippo, Takamura, Aoki, and Kimura) we really don't know what a boxer's match history is like unless Morikawa mentions it on a match poster or by another character, since we don't know if they had any matches since their last match in the story or not. Most boxers tend to have more than 1 match a year.
No one really call someone there name and then Coach, it is normally Coach then name. We make a big deal about changing characters names to where their first name is before their last names. It should be the same for Coach, then their last name.
We will not change the names, the names will remain Japanese way (like last name before given name). Coaches are well most unnamed so its whatever but I was asking how you started changing it. I didn't change any names, the character titles have been since the beginning this way.
It is better calling Sendo Takeshi than Takeshi Sendo, they are from Japan, we use what they call them. Those from USA, for example it's not Bison Richard but Richard Bison. It is Takamura Mamoru, not Mamoru Takamura. We use the names that they call in the series. Japanese last name before given name.
Oh also, Nakadai and Kinoshita, are like Kamogawa. When they have last name, we remove the coach before it and remains just the last name. Using their last names are for their gyms. There are a few other coaches that their last name is their gym instead of location, hope you can find them.
I haven't really changed the name (Considering we dont really know there name), Japanese people read right to left where it is they say Coach first then the name. Just like we read left to right, except we are saying Coach last which doesn't really make sense. If it was a Boxer's Coach as the name, then I would agree with leaving it as is. Or if the gym has a weird name (Like New Japan Coach).
As for the Shark One Comment, I think if you translate the means behind a lot of Japanese, it might not make sense in English. Like Kamogawa means like Duck River or something (it is why there is a picture of a duck on there KBG boxer trunks.
If you want we could just use redirects on it, but I know you hate redirects....
If you think having Coach before a name is a big deal or changing the Japanese, then you should probably also changed Kimura Tatsuya's Mother and Kimura Tatsuya's Father name too since most site I see list them as just Kimura's Mother or Kimura's Father. Or Sendo's Grandma, Sendo's Teacher. We are already changed the "unknown names" from how various Japanese sites have it. I am sure there are other examples on this sites.
If there are any announcements or like if they are important, like a new game or a new season, would you want to post them on your blogs? Unless you want me to do it later but I get the news late... So that's why I am asking if you could post them on your blog. When people search for season 4 it will be on of the first results, just like season 3 was when Iloveflash posted.
If Season 4 got announced, I think it would be a few months before it aired. And so far, it not listed for Winter or Next Spring 2020...Also with Tokyo Olympics in 2020 it might push things back too. So if there is an anime it probably won't happen till next Year...
Also I saw on the Play Stage site it mentnioned that the series sold over 96 million volumes in August, where it was over 95 million back in April. So over the coarse of 5 months, it sold about 1 million volumes for the various books.
Big is pretty vague. They could alway announce something around Round 1300 which is only like 6 or so months away, depending on how many weeks Morikawa takes off. I think the 30 years mark might get celebrated till next September, where there is plenty of time for them to announce more stuff.
I know when Grappler Baki announced the new anime season part of the 25 years thing, it was like 1 or 2 years after happened (I believe.)
As for how to get stuff in a contest, I think fans mail a form in or something from the magazine, where they get drawn. Not for sure. Most contest are like that where mailing is involved.
It is good that you wrote so much for some characters like Randy Boy Junior and Nagumo Ryuji, but since it was when you just started, I think I will leave them to you to sort out. Most are written as a story rather than for the character. What I mean is by fixing them to be more for the character if you could when you have time, unless you want us to do it (we will not remove anything, just fix grammar and sort them out for characters and most stuff onto the arcs.)
It is actually the opposite, far easier than visual mode, you just copy paste the file's name between the codes and you're done, plus the code doesn't get messed up. At least since 2013 that's what I noticed, and I've never used visual mode since then.
Not everyone uses the editor on the site. There is more than just us 3 that use it. In the past, if you wanted to upload an image(s) you could just click the add photo icon to the gallery, or create a new gallery then upload a lot of images and copy and paste it over.:
If it is for techniques/styles/stances/locations, I will put the old one so you can upload and then turn it back on again, it isn't really a problem. Does it show you the older one in character galleries?
You uploaded like a billion pictures on this place which is fine but do you think we might get copyrighted? I don't know much about that, probably not right? Since we took a lot of pictures from the manga and stuff..
Who knows? It not like it hard to delete stuff if we get sent something. Technically raw version is copyrighted, but you can find the same images on various sites just the quality differs. The images on this site is sort of out of order, or just "cropped" version of it, where you really can't read the whole chapter/volume like on various illegal websites.
There is licensing to put on all image files page. I will do it when we set this wiki well, and all images will use it like other big comic wikis around so we can be sure. Editing 7000 files I will need your help, we will do it when everything else is fine.
IT should be noted all images of Hajime no Ippo is technically illegal since Morikawa is anti digital, where he doesn't want to be sold/posted online, yet it is everywhere. I think if we hosted English translation and it was copyright, then the company that copyright could sent a letter to remove stuff.
I think Morikawa's issue for anti-digital was he doesn't like the look of reading it on phones/tablets and computers, where he is more of a purest where he like reading it as a physical book.
I think another reason was he wasn't happy with the pay disturbution for digital stuff, where mangaka didn't get a lot for it. He talks about it on his Facebook about it.
I know another reason why he sort of dislike it was in a recent twitter post, he mention art stores are selling less and less physical products. So at some point manga industry might be all digital/computer in the future.
There's no need for a disclaimer on the main page for it. No Fandom Wikis had licensing issues and they use the raw Japanese version for their images as well. All licensing information goes in the image's page.
Except the issue is still Morikawa is anti digital, where there is no "legal licensed" to post images of it. It the main reason why Kodashi isn't selling it online. So I don't know if including that with images will make a difference.
Well keep in mind out of 126 volumes with at least 180 pages per volume, where there might be on average like 3 to 4 panels per page, there is going to probably be over 90k panels worth of content. I doubt we even have that much of it.
If you consider the chapter cover page (1274 pages) then probably same amount or less of character content.
Hey, the retirement saga image looks fitting, good job finding that! If you could also find volume 111 with Takamura and his wings, and the double volume covers so I won't have to redraw/edit. Will be highly appreciated. For the, battle of the beasts arc, 10 months in the making arc and seeking heights arc.
The one with Ippo and the 3 stars can be used to the saga he will return in the ring! Yes if you could find good quality it will be nice, but these two are good quality either way, the last one can be easily edited, putting color on the white lines.
If you find other covers clean from volumes post them here so we can see where to put them!
I noticed there was a like a video online with various poster/cover/artwork that Morikawa's done that appeared in one of the index/art books. The quality is low, but it gives an idea what is out (and not scanned...) I took screen caps of them:
Great! But I nearly completed the edited one, although I can't remove the logo, good job on finding it for the 10 Months in the Making Arc! By the way, we will not name the image tabs, just have them 1, 2, 3... etc.
You keep changing things...one minute it is this way, next minute you go with something else... One page you put color image first, another page you put manga image first, another page it is anime....there is really no reason or rule to it... I always thought the rule was anime/color first then manga like it was for the various character and their info box...
I have them all Anime>Manga>Color I think, it's just the titles I've been changing but titles aren't a big deal, I just decided now that numbering them is better because they can get many like Battle of Hawk Arc (haven't found the anime dvd one yet)
Just like Jolt Counter Arc, I put it, along with smaller arcs that I previously had within other arcs, I am trying to do what's best not what I like but it is again in my belief what's best, if you have opinions tell me them like HajimenoAoki does, we're all fans who love the series after all, wiki must look wonderful!
I planned on making all ps3 to .png files for all characters, but I wasn't for sure which one were .jpgs still I decided to just re do it all, and delete duplicate later. That way all the files would have the same file naming structure. As for the logo, I thought I cropped it out or fixed it...
The trivia point you made that I removed was not considered trivia, it was a detail about a character's clothing that belongs in the character's Appearance section (which I added when I removed it from the chapter page).
Trivia about a character doesn't belong in a chapter page anyway unless Morikawa made a mistake regarding the character (Takamura with six fingers in a previous chapter or a mistake with match records).
"otherwise 2/3 the stuff on this site would be deleted according to you..."
That's over exaggerating over a trivia point removal.
Yes 2/3 was an exaggeration, but you do tend to delete a lot of stuff that you think is not important. I will grant you that some of your deletions is probably correct, but probably not all of them.
Right now, there is no rule on what is considered Trivia and what isn't. If it was previous listed on the page, or incorrect information, I would agree it could probably be deleted. Just because you put it on the character's page doesn't mean it can't be listed as trivia on chapter it appears on it, or somewhere else on this site. There is a lot of content on this site, and trying to find something on it can be confusing, or like trying to find a needle in a haystack. I know browsing the site, I came across new pages that I didn't know existed or were made.
Also, other character pages, we don't really mention what they wear in the ring. (Though maybe we should start). The fact the Goat was wearing a ring outfit was trivia since not that many boxer do it in the series. I can think of only like 6 chacters that have worn something (like Takamura, Hawk, Bison, Alfredo, Martinez, and now Goat.)
I should point out, not everyone read the manga. So what might be obivious to you, it might not be obvious to someone else. I know there are probably quite a few people that only watched the anime only, and don't plan to read the manga (for what ever reason.) I know also know a lot of people that read the series tend to forget things in it too, or they remembered it wrong. I know I tend to notice new things sometime when ever I read the series. There are also differences between the anime and manga too that people might not realise.
There's no rule on trivia, but it's no reason to add information anyone can see if they read the manga. Goat wore the coat for multiple panels. It's hard to miss.
Not everyone reads the manga or they might had missed something while reading, but trivia sections aren't for things that you can see if you read the chapter. Trivia, by definition, is for little known facts or details. If someone who reads the manga, goes to one of our chapter pages and sees trivia such as an action a character did or something their wearing (unless it's a reference to something), they would think that it is not trivia. If they wanted to remember what Goat was wearing, they would go to his appearance section.
We got good examples of trivia in chapter pages already, most of them you did. Like errors, misconceptions, translations, Weekly Shonen Magazine details and other little known facts. It's just this one would be considered "junk trivia" due to being something obvious to manga readers.
Most the stuff on this site isn't really needed if a person read the manga or watched the anime. So if a person read the chapter, we don't really need a summary of it, yet we do since not everyone remembers what they have read or watched. A lot of people forget things or miss remembers stuff.
No, Wikia/fandom's are for storing information about a series, for the fans to look back on. So no, most of the site is not useless for people who read the manga. Trivia in chapters is not for character details, character details belong in that character's respective section. Look at other Wikia's trivia section for chapters. I see them pointing out errors regarding characters or story.
Is goat wearing a costume something little-known, an error, a plothole? No, it's an appearance detail that is already stated in his appearance section. If people want to know about a character, they would check that character's page, not a chapter trivia.
People have bad memory and forgot when he wore the costume? That's what references are for, put a reference in the appearance section linking to the chapter article...
Trivia can be a lot of stuff. From odd fact to little details that is could be pointless knowledge. (There is a lot of trivia related games shows that are filled with that sort of thing...)
It doesn't have to be an error or plothole in order to be listed. Does giving a mention to a building name that appeared to be in the chapter relavent to the story or plot? Not really, yet it is consider trivia. It one of those odd facts that is sort of interesting.
Is it relavent to know what is listed on a boxer's trunks or Ippo's boat? Not Really, but that is also considered trivia The fact that Takamura's past opponents tend to be animal related is consdered trivia. So there is a lot of useless Trivia that has already been posted already that might be obvious to someone who read the series a few times, but might not be who only read it once.
As I mentioned before, we really don't mention what a boxer is wearing into the ring just there every day appearance or face/hair. So you can see why I put it as trivia. Maybe that is just me....
"Trivia can be a lot of stuff. From odd fact to little details that is could be pointless knowledge. (There is a lot of trivia related games shows that are filled with that sort of thing...)"
Yes, but there is a limit to what is trivia, especially on a chapter page. What a character wears in the ring belongs in the character's appearance section which, again, already is stated. Again, just add a reference point in the character page.
"Is it relavent to know what is listed on a boxer's trunks or Ippo's boat? Not Really, but that is also considered trivia"
No that is not considered chapter trivia, but details listed on the main part of the boxer's or Ippo's boat's page.
"The fact that Takamura's past opponents tend to be animal related is consdered trivia."
"So there is a lot of useless Trivia that has already been posted already that might be obvious to someone who read the series a few times, but might not be who only read it once. "
This is what I'm talking about. Junk trivia, such as something that just happens in a chapter does not belong in a chapter trivia. It's not limited to just errors/plotholes but there is a limit. "Goat is wearing a costume to the ring" is not trivia, it's junk trivia.
"As I mentioned before, we really don't mention what a boxer is wearing into the ring just there every day appearance or face/hair. So you can see why I put it as trivia. Maybe that is just me...."
No, we do. I added it in Michael Goat's page. Hence why I removed it from the Trivia.
Sigh, all trivia is junk or useless information.... Do you gain anything from knowing it? It really serves no purprose, except personal bragging rights that you known worthless information. Does knowing something actually help you? Not really.
"No, we do. I added it in Michael Goat's page. Hence why I removed it from the Trivia. "
No we didn't included it with the appearance...look at any character page, and they don't mention a thing about what a boxers wears inside the ring. If it does, it is in the minority. Ippo's has no mention of his trunks, the same with other characters. Takamura's been known to wear a lot of outrageous or flashy clothes, but it doesn't really mention it. So just because you started to put it on the page, doesn't mean it was always there.
Mangaka sometime like to put little "Easter Eggs" in their work in the background intentional or not that not everyone might notice when they read it. According to you, that is considered "Junk" Trivia. I know early on in the series, Morikawa like to added "Joe" to various characters shirts, or mention his boxing gym. If a character does something interesting or odd in the background of the chapter, that is considered trivia.
"Sigh, all trivia is junk or useless information.... Do you gain anything from knowing it? It really serves no purprose, except personal bragging rights that you known worthless information. Does knowing something actually help you? Not really. "
Some of it might be useless, that's why I remove some of them that either aren't trivia at all or junk trivia.
"No we didn't included it with the appearance...look at any character page, and they don't mention a thing about what a boxers wears inside the ring. If it does, it is in the minority. Ippo's has no mention of his trunks, the same with other characters. Takamura's been known to wear a lot of outrageous or flashy clothes, but it doesn't really mention it."
If you see that is lacking, then add it to the appearance section where it belongs instead of the trivia section.
"So just because you started to put it on the page, doesn't mean it was always there. "
I added it to the appearance section, then removed the trivia, then you added it back to the trivia. So you added it after I put it in the appearance section. So it should be removed from the trivia now, right?
"Mangaka sometime like to put little "Easter Eggs" in their work in the background intentional or not that not everyone might notice when they read it. According to you, that is considered "Junk" Trivia."
No, I wouldn't consider it junk trivia, as it is "Easter Eggs".
"I know early on in the series, Morikawa like to added "Joe" to various characters shirts, or mention his boxing gym. "
That would be considered trivia that belongs in the chapter trivia section.
" If a character does something interesting or odd in the background of the chapter, that is considered trivia."
If you mean trivia such as in Chapter 1246, then yes, that's trivia as it is a reference to something else. Useless "good" information.
Forget it since only you are able to judge if something is trivia or not, because of your "unofficial" rules...if you can't see all trivia is the same... This is my last comment on it, delete what ever you.
I will be leaving that trivia point, and other trivia points you add alone. I don't run the Wikia alone, nor do I decide what is right alone. You are also an admin, and your decisions and words also matter. Apologies.
I am okay with you deleting them (or adding them) if there is a valid reason for it like I mentioned before if it was already posted on the page (in the summary, history, etc) or incorrect information (not facts or true, or opinion based like who a boxer was based on), or maybe it was posted on the wrong place.
My whole issue was you were deleting stuff just based on your opinion since you didn't think it was actual trivia, or it didn't meet your own rules/guidelines. As I have mentioned many times, there is no real rules regrading Trivia, except that it has to be true or fact based. Other than anything could be consider trivia, even if it seem obvious or "junk" to you, it might not be to someone else.